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== Getting the ball rolling ==
Thanks to whomever started this page up, I was going to do it today but you've saved me the trouble.
To get things going, what should be included on this page?  A full list of merit rewards for every TF and Arc would be very useful, but quite large.  Should it be on its own page?  Likewise a full list what you can buy with merits and the cost is useful, but should it be on this page or should the costs go on each IO's own page? --[[User:Weatherby Goode|Weatherby Goode]] 16:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I'd say both. --[[User:K26dp|K26dp]] 17:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
== TF Merit Rewards ==
== TF Merit Rewards ==
Preserving this here, since the thread will go poof when i13 goes live.
Preserving this here, since the thread will go poof when i13 goes live.
From Catwoorg's [http://http://boards.cityofvillains.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Issue10open&Number=12423187&page=0&fpart=1 Meritorius Measurement] thread on the official forums:
From Catwoorg's [http://boards.cityofvillains.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Issue10open&Number=12423187&page=0&fpart=1 Meritorius Measurement] thread on the official forums:


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*Revenant Hero Project: 8 (Gordon Stacy)
*Revenant Hero Project: 8 (Gordon Stacy)
*The Arrival of the Oranbegans: 3 (Cadao Kestrel)
*The Arrival of the Oranbegans: 3 (Cadao Kestrel)
*Mass Duplicity: 9 (Anton Sampson)
*A Path into Darkness:7 (Colleen Nelson)
*A Path into Darkness:7 (Colleen Nelson)
*They Call Me the Doctor/Doctor's Ally: 1 (Gordon Stacy)
*They Call Me the Doctor/Doctor's Ally: 1 (Gordon Stacy)
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Villains: Malcontent (Level 16-19)
Villains: Malcontent (Level 16-19)
*The Aeon Conspiracy: 6
*The Aeon Conspiracy: 6 (Marshall Brass)
*Echo Down the Aeons: 2 (Marshall Brass)
*Echo Down the Aeons: 2 (Marshall Brass)
*High-Tech Gold: 3 (The Golden Roller)
*Breakout at the Zig: 3 (Operative Wellman)


Villains: Insider (Level 20-24)
Villains: Insider (Level 20-24)
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Villains: Wiseguy (Level 30-34)
Villains: Wiseguy (Level 30-34)
*Nictus Dissection: 2 (Psimon Omega)
*Brawling with the Big Boys: 2 (Crimson Revenant)
*Brawling with the Big Boys: 2 (Crimson Revenant)
*Offer Soul of Akarist: 1 (Archmage Tarixus)
*Offer Soul of Akarist: 1 (Archmage Tarixus)
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Thats the current compilation."
Thats the current compilation."
--[[User:Weatherby Goode|Weatherby Goode]] 15:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
--[[User:Weatherby Goode|Weatherby Goode]] 15:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
== Merits for GM kills. ==
Some, if not all, Giant Monsters also drop Merits upon defeat. I got either 2 or 6 merits (I can't remember which,) for killing Babbage in Boomtown. Perhaps someone has some more info on this? [[User:BlodFang|BlodFang]] 22:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
== DR formula ==
We've got this line, "Repeating the same Task Force/Strike Force/Trial within 24 hours will lessen the Merit Rewards by this formula: 1 / (# of attempts), rounded down.", coming from the thread at [http://web.archive.org/web/20090224111533/http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=12984216], where multiple players who've tested it confirm that the way the devs said it works is not how it actually works.
So what does this mean? "Diminishing Returns on Taskforces, Strikeforces, Trials and Raids that DO give a reward option upon completion will always give 50% rewards for subsequent completions within the 24 hour time period." Is this a conflict, or is this a statement that the DR formula is different between tasks that always, automatically give Merits and tasks that give a dialog box choice between Merits and something else? [[User:Corebreach|Corebreach]] 04:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:Something that gives a reward - respec, hamidon raid, etc - other than merits at the end gives 50% every subsequent completion in 24 hours. Anything that only gives merits, it's 1/(attempts). This is straight from Synapse. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 05:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. It'd be cool to link a reference to that. Or was it in a private message? [[User:Corebreach|Corebreach]] 07:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:Look at the DR section again: there's a link now; I added it last night. :) -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 16:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
== MPM should be Mins per Merit ==
btw the wiki page is wrong (*as was Synpase btw) using MPM as "merits per min."
Taking the equation as
min/(merits/min)
That reduces to min*min/merits.
It should be mins per merit
min/(min/merits)
which reduces to simply merits
I'll happily make the change after some time for comments.[[User:Catwhoorg|Catwhoorg]] 16:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
== Cap? ==
Is there a known cap on merits? {{User:StarGeek/sig}} 22:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
: I would guess it's 9999 like tickets, but I'm nowhere near that to find out. --[[User:Blondeshell|Blondeshell]] 00:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 06:29, 4 December 2013

Getting the ball rolling

Thanks to whomever started this page up, I was going to do it today but you've saved me the trouble. To get things going, what should be included on this page? A full list of merit rewards for every TF and Arc would be very useful, but quite large. Should it be on its own page? Likewise a full list what you can buy with merits and the cost is useful, but should it be on this page or should the costs go on each IO's own page? --Weatherby Goode 16:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd say both. --K26dp 17:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

TF Merit Rewards

Preserving this here, since the thread will go poof when i13 goes live. From Catwoorg's Meritorius Measurement thread on the official forums:

" Leandro did most of the compiling, and Bionic Flea kicked off the data collection.

Thanks to all the closed testers who added to this list

Heroes: Task Forces

  • Positron: 55 (2.2 random recipes)
  • Synapse: 45 (1.8 random recipes)
  • Sister Psyche TF: 40 merits (1.6 random recipe) BUGGED: Only one teammate got it 11/3
  • Citadel: 30 (1.2 random recipes)
  • Manticore: 25 (1.0 recipe) BUGGED: Only one teammate got it 10/30
  • Numina: 27 (1.08 random recipes)
  • Statesman: 30 (1.2 random recipes)
  • Dr. Quaterfield: 90 (3.6 random recipes)
  • Sara Moore TF: 50 (2 random recipes)
  • Justin Augustine: 35 (1.4 random recipes)
  • Faathim: 55 (2.2 random recipes)
  • Moonfire 25 (1.0 Recipe) BUGGED: Only one teammate got it 11/2
  • Ernesto Hess: 15 (0.6 random recipes)
  • Katie Hannon: 7 (0.28 random recipe)
  • Twilight Son: 4 (0.16 random recipe)
  • Mender Lazarus: 6 (0.24 random recipe)
  • Mender Silos: 7 (0.28 random recipe)
  • Cavern of Trascendence: 6 (0.24 random recipe)
  • Eden Trial: 2 (0.08 random recipe)
  • 3rd Respec Trial: 25 (1 random recipe)
  • Heroes: Protector of Innocents (Level 1-15)
  • Flux the Outcast: 6 (Flux)
  • Julius the Kind Hearted Troll: 3 (Julius The Troll)
  • The Heart of the Hollows: 9 (Talshak the Mystic)
  • Officer Wincott vs. The Trolls: 2 (David Wincott)
  • The Clockwork Captive: 7 (Athena Currie)
  • Bonefire: 7 (Lorenzo DiCosta)
  • The Vahzilok Pollutant Plot: 7 (Jill Pastor)
  • Break up the Clockwork and Skulls: 1 (Maurice Feldon)
  • Rescue the Mystic from the Circle of Thorns: 1 (Dr. Trevor Seaborn)
  • The Peace Slayers:7 (Sunstorm)
  • War and Peacebringers:6 (Sunstorm)

Heroes: Guardian (Level 16-19)

  • Rumblings of the Past : 3 (Jim Tremblor)
  • I Lost my Daddy!: 3 (Penny Yin)
  • The Mind of a King: 5 (Colleen Saramago)
  • Tsoo Shenanigans: 5 (Kong Bao)
  • The Vahzilok Plague: 4 (Dr. Anne-Marie Engles)
  • Vahzilok Wasting Disease: 1 (Dr. Ann-Marie Engles)

Heroes: Keeper of Peace (Level 20-24)

  • A Faultline in the Sands of Time: 5 (Agent G)
  • The Buried Past: 2 (Doc Delilah)
  • Hear and Now: 5 (Long Jack)
  • Ring of Peebles: 9 (Stephanie Peebles)
  • The Wheel of Destruction: 4 (Andrea Mitchell)
  • Hand of Iron: 4 (Andrew Fiore)
  • The Sky Raider Secret: 5 (Barry Gosford)
  • The Tsoo Coup: 8 (Amanda Loomis)
  • Stop the Mystic Madmen: 2 (Andrea Mitchell)
  • Retrieve Stolen Weapons From the Freakshow: 1 (Andrew Fiore)
  • Shadow Science:6 (Shadowstar)


Heroes: Champion (Level 25-29)

  • Piercing the Veil: 8 (Gordon Bower)
  • War of the Fir Bolg: 5 (Skipper Le Grange)
  • Crown of Glory: 3 (Mercedes Sheldon)
  • Dirge of Chaos: 3 (Mercedes Sheldon)
  • The Magic Man: 3 (Mercedes Sheldon)
  • A Madman's Council: 4 (Lars Hansen)
  • Return to Vampyr Mountain: 4 (Tobias Hansen)
  • Ubelmann the Unknown: 9 (Ashwin Lannister)
  • The Scroll of Tielekku: 7 (Miriam Bloechl)
  • An Unnatural Order: 8 (Eliza Thorpe)
  • The Freaklympics: 11 (Collin Larson)
  • The Mysterious General Z: 7 (Christine Lansdale)
  • The Redemption of Alexander 'the Great'/Redeemer: 4 (Ashwin Lannister)
  • Find the Pantheon: Rescue the Mystics/Mystical Savior: 2 (Laura Brunetti)
  • Winslowe and the Cosmotron:6 (Shadowstar)

Heroes: Defender of Truth (Level 30-34)

  • Crossing Over: 6 (Buck Salinger)
  • Hatred's Hungry Heart: 4 (Kelly Nemmers)
  • Rescue the engineers and prevent the Rikti from bringing down the force fields/War Wall Defender: 1 (Phillipa Meraux)
  • Unity Plague: 12 (Jenny Firkins)
  • Freakshow War: 10 (Neal Kendrick)
  • The Rise of the Vampyri: 7 (Jose Escalante)
  • The Library of Souls: 11 (Allison King)
  • Corporate Culture: 9 (Phillipa Meraux)
  • Stop the Pact/Corrupter: 3 (Neal Kendrick)
  • Fear and Loathing on Striga Isle:8 (Shadowstar)

Heroes: Vindicator (Level 35-39)

  • Revenant Hero Project: 8 (Gordon Stacy)
  • The Arrival of the Oranbegans: 3 (Cadao Kestrel)
  • Mass Duplicity: 9 (Anton Sampson)
  • A Path into Darkness:7 (Colleen Nelson)
  • They Call Me the Doctor/Doctor's Ally: 1 (Gordon Stacy)
  • Scary Monsters:4 (Shadowstar)

Heroes: Justice Incarnate (Level 40-45)

  • The Eternal Nemesis: 15 (Maxwell Christopher)
  • The Praetorian War: 22 (Tina MacIntyre)
  • The Clockwork King's Psychic Signal: 0 (Tina MacIntyre)
  • The Hydra Dimension: 2 (Tina MacIntyre)
  • Nemesis Weather Control: 5 (Maxwell Christopher)
  • To Save a Soul:11 (Madeline Casey)
  • Division Line: 18 (Angus McQueen)
  • Melvin and the Mysterious Malta Group: 18 (indigo)
  • The Evil Countess Crey: 13 (Janet Kellum)
  • The Nictus Alliance:15 (Shadowstar)
  • The Nictus Insurrection:29 (Shadowstar)

Heroes: Hero of the City (Level 46-50)

  • Future Threat: 3 (Daedalus)
  • Stolen Power: 3 (Daedalus)
  • The Origin of Power: 2 (Percy Winkley)
  • Ouroboros Initiation: 2 (The Pilgrim)
  • Lost and Found: 3 (Montague Castanella)
  • Upon the Psychic Plane : 19 (Harvey Maylor)
  • Operation: World Wide Red: 11 (Crimson)
  • To Save a Thousand Worlds: 16 (Unai Kemen)
  • A Hero's Hero: 19 (Maria Jenkins)
  • The Maurader's Cell: 1 (Maria Jenkins)
  • Black Shroud Dimension: 1 (Maria Jenkins)
  • The Rikti Negotiator: 1 (Crimson)
  • Travel to Cimerora aka Talk to Imperius: 1 (Montague Castenella)
  • Learn about Cimeroroa:1 (Senator Decimus Aquila)
  • The Final Darkness:7 (Shadowstar)

Villains: Strike Forces

  • Virgil Tarikoss: 10 (0.4 random recipe)
  • Operative Sharkhead: 25 (1 random recipe)
  • Ice Mistral: 25 (1 random recipe)
  • Silver Mantis: 35 (1.4 random recipes)
  • Lord Recluse: 25 (1 random recipe)
  • Mender Tesseract: 5 (0.2 random recipe)
  • Mender Silos: 5 (0.2 random recipe)
  • 3rd Respec Trial: 15 (0.6 random recipe)

Villains: Soldier (Level 1-15)

  • The Vahzilok Conference: 4 (Dmitri Krylov)
  • Spy Hunt: 5 (Dmitri Krylov)
  • Midas Touched: 3 (Dr. Shelly Percy)
  • Breaking Bows: 2 (Peter Themari)
  • Weird Science: 2 (Doctor Creed)
  • The Origins of Snakes: 2 (Matthew Burke)
  • The Hit List: 2 (The Radio)
  • Family War: 5 (Billie Heck)
  • The Book and the Burning: 3 (Mr. Bocor)
  • An Arachnos Ghost Story:3 (Veluta Lunata)
  • Power of the Spirit:3 (Veluta Lunata)

Villains: Malcontent (Level 16-19)

  • The Aeon Conspiracy: 6 (Marshall Brass)
  • Echo Down the Aeons: 2 (Marshall Brass)
  • High-Tech Gold: 3 (The Golden Roller)
  • Breakout at the Zig: 3 (Operative Wellman)

Villains: Insider (Level 20-24)

  • The Origin of Power: 2 (Ashley McKnight)

Villains: Undesirable (Level 25-29)

  • Aurora Fades: 1 (Darla Mavis)
  • Power Mine: 2 (Darla Mavis)
  • Zag Breakout!: 2 (Shadowy Figure)
  • Midnight Draws Near: 5 (Darrin Wade)
  • Die by the Freak!: 3 (Doc Buzzsaw)
  • On the Trail of the Leviathan: 1 (Operative Kirkland)

Villains: Wiseguy (Level 30-34)

  • Nictus Dissection: 2 (Psimon Omega)
  • Brawling with the Big Boys: 2 (Crimson Revenant)
  • Offer Soul of Akarist: 1 (Archmage Tarixus)
  • Chaos Unbound: 4 (Vivacious Verandi)

Villains: Criminal (Level 35-39)

  • The Devil's Card Deck: 3 (Mercedes Sheldon)
  • The Unlucky Artifact: 1 (Hard Luck)
  • Fat Cat City: 2 (Basse Croupier)

Villains: Captain (Level 40-45)

  • Selestar: 1 (Mage-Killer Zuhkara)
  • Mystic Mayhem: 4 (Ghost Widow)
  • A Wind Named Serafina (Scirocco): 5.
  • Miss Francine the Freakshow Teacher: 3 (Westin Phipps)

Villains: Made (Level 46-50)

  • Power from the Past: 3 (Sister Airlia)
  • Politics, Cimerora Style: 3 (Sister Airlia)
  • Alone in the Darque: 2 (Efficiency Expert Pither)
  • Video Killed the Radio: 1 (Television)
  • Von Grun's Redemption: 12 (Vernon Von Grun's)
  • If At First You Don't Succeed: 1 (Fortunata Hamilton)
  • The Great Grun Gathering:2 (Vernon Von grun)

Cooperative: Strask Forces

  • Imperious: 25 (1 random recipe)
  • Lady Grey: 30 (1.2 random recipes)

Cooperative: Hero of the City/Made (Level 46-50)

  • The Strange Case of Benjamin A. Decker: 2 (Levantera)
  • Welcome to the Vanguard: 3 (Levantera)
  • Dreams of Peace and Acts of War: 5 (Serpent Drummer)
  • The Red and the Black: 4 (Gaussian)
  • The Horror of War: 6 (Dark Watcher)


Thats the current compilation." --Weatherby Goode 15:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Merits for GM kills.

Some, if not all, Giant Monsters also drop Merits upon defeat. I got either 2 or 6 merits (I can't remember which,) for killing Babbage in Boomtown. Perhaps someone has some more info on this? BlodFang 22:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

DR formula

We've got this line, "Repeating the same Task Force/Strike Force/Trial within 24 hours will lessen the Merit Rewards by this formula: 1 / (# of attempts), rounded down.", coming from the thread at [1], where multiple players who've tested it confirm that the way the devs said it works is not how it actually works.

So what does this mean? "Diminishing Returns on Taskforces, Strikeforces, Trials and Raids that DO give a reward option upon completion will always give 50% rewards for subsequent completions within the 24 hour time period." Is this a conflict, or is this a statement that the DR formula is different between tasks that always, automatically give Merits and tasks that give a dialog box choice between Merits and something else? Corebreach 04:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Something that gives a reward - respec, hamidon raid, etc - other than merits at the end gives 50% every subsequent completion in 24 hours. Anything that only gives merits, it's 1/(attempts). This is straight from Synapse. -- Agge (talk) 05:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. It'd be cool to link a reference to that. Or was it in a private message? Corebreach 07:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Look at the DR section again: there's a link now; I added it last night. :) -- Agge (talk) 16:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

MPM should be Mins per Merit

btw the wiki page is wrong (*as was Synpase btw) using MPM as "merits per min."

Taking the equation as min/(merits/min) That reduces to min*min/merits.

It should be mins per merit min/(min/merits) which reduces to simply merits

I'll happily make the change after some time for comments.Catwhoorg 16:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Cap?

Is there a known cap on merits? User:StarGeek/sig 22:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I would guess it's 9999 like tickets, but I'm nowhere near that to find out. --Blondeshell 00:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)