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Should we create a disambiguation page (and if needed page for defining it...) for the gameplay concept of Regen (i.e. HP increase over time up to maximum)? - Kalon
Should we create a disambiguation page (and if needed page for defining it...) for the gameplay concept of Regen (i.e. HP increase over time up to maximum)? - Kalon
: Nice catch. I suspect something might break if we tack anything on the end of the title of the powerset. What would be an appropriate thing to tack on the end of the Gameplay article? Or maybe combine it with the [[Recovery]] article, they're both defined by percentages. Or maybe Health Regeneration and Endurance Recovery. --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 19:38, 21 June 2007 (EDT)  ''(don't forget to sign talk pages)''
: Nice catch. I suspect something might break if we tack anything on the end of the title of the powerset. What would be an appropriate thing to tack on the end of the Gameplay article? Or maybe combine it with the [[Recovery]] article, they're both defined by percentages. Or maybe Health Regeneration and Endurance Recovery. --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 19:38, 21 June 2007 (EDT)  ''(don't forget to sign talk pages)''
:: My take on it: [[Regeneration]] should be the power set, with a note at the top that states (without the indentation):
::: ''This is the page for the Regeneration [[powerset]].  For information on regeneration in general, see the [[Health Regeneration]] page.''
:: (And I just looked and, lo and behold, aside from the redirect, that's how it's done.  Must be because that's how Wikipedia does it, though I bet they have a template.  Stick a fork in it.)
:: I don't think people are going to "get" the (Gameplay) and (Concept) article names, since it could be argued that the power set is very much a concept that impacts game play.  Recovery and Endurance Recovery should both exist, with one being a redirect to the other, but I can't think of a reason to prefer one over the other for the actual article.
:: I don't think that Health Regeneration should be on the same page as (Endurance) Recovery, unless Regeneration, Recovery, and other things are on a page about Character Stats and their interactions; such a page would be a stretch, because while they have similar mechanics, they do not directly interact.  Lastly, nobody's going to search for the term "regeneration"; they're going to look for "Health", "HP", and/or "regeneration", so we need something at those points to catch them. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 22:03, 21 June 2007 (EDT).
:::I added that {{tl|otheruses4}} to the top. Sounds like [[Health Regeneration]] is best. It's late, I'll see if I can find some time during work to work on this. --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 02:17, 22 June 2007 (EDT)
::::Thanks guys, nice work. I was a little floored by the fact it (and Endurance) weren't actually in the wiki. This is an elegant and helpful solution. [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 23:19, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
===Possible article name/locations for Health Regeneration===
===Possible article name/locations for Health Regeneration===
* [[Regeneration (Gameplay)]]
* [[Regeneration (Concept)]]
* [[Recovery]]
* [[Recovery]]
* [[Endurance Recovery]]
* [[Endurance Recovery]]
* [[Health Regeneration]]
* [[Health Regeneration]]


:: My take on it: [[Regeneration]] should be the power set, with a note at the top that states (without the indentation):
==About that Confusing Recovery Page==
::: <i>This is the page for the Regeneration [[power set]].  For information on regeneration in general, see the [[Health Regeneration]] page.</i>
 
:: (And I just looked and, lo and behold, aside from the redirect, that's how it's done. Must be because that's how Wikipedia does it, though I bet they have a template.  Stick a fork in it.)
I'm finding the page [[Recovery]] bloody confusing, perhaps needlessly so. It seems unclear.
:: I don't think people are going to "get" the (Gameplay) and (Concept) article names, since it could be argued that the power set is very much a concept that impacts game play.  Recovery and Endurance Recovery should both exist, with one being a redirect to the other, but I can't think of a reason to prefer one over the other for the actual article.
 
:: I don't think that Health Regeneration should be on the same page as (Endurance) Recovery, unless Regeneration, Recovery, and other things are on a page about Character Stats and their interactions; such a page would be a stretch, because while they have similar mechanics, they do not directly interact.  Lastly, nobody's going to search for the term "regeneration"; they're going to look for "Health", "HP", and/or "regeneration", so we need something at those points to catch them. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 22:03, 21 June 2007 (EDT).
Specifically:
:"Many players confuse Recovery with Health Regeneration, which refers either to the speed players regain their Health or to the powerset for Scrappers and Stalkers."''
 
Okay, there is no powerset called Health Regeneration as far as I am aware.
 
Would it be better to state (what I think the intent of) this more directly? For example:
 
:The terms Recovery and Regeneration should not be confused:
:* Recovery refers to the rate and which Endurance is recovered.
:* Regeneration refers to the rate at which Health (hit points) are recovered, '''or''' to the secondary powerset available for Scrappers and Stalkers
 
[[User:Taosin|Taosin]] 13:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:It probably should read "Many players confuse Recovery with Regeneration..." That being said, we should probably continue the discussion [[Talk:Recovery|over there]]. :) --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 14:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 
Yes it should be discussed over there, but the top of the page says to talk about it over here! ;p
[[User:Taosin|Taosin]] 05:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 
:The top of the page is about removing the stub, not about confusing text. {{smile}} -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 05:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:38, 17 June 2009

nerf

Is it worth mentioning the "nerf joke" regeneration was in the early issues of the game?-bellpei

Perhaps in the history section. Keep it concise. --Konoko 02:51, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Disambig?

Should we create a disambiguation page (and if needed page for defining it...) for the gameplay concept of Regen (i.e. HP increase over time up to maximum)? - Kalon

Nice catch. I suspect something might break if we tack anything on the end of the title of the powerset. What would be an appropriate thing to tack on the end of the Gameplay article? Or maybe combine it with the Recovery article, they're both defined by percentages. Or maybe Health Regeneration and Endurance Recovery. --Konoko 19:38, 21 June 2007 (EDT) (don't forget to sign talk pages)
My take on it: Regeneration should be the power set, with a note at the top that states (without the indentation):
This is the page for the Regeneration powerset. For information on regeneration in general, see the Health Regeneration page.
(And I just looked and, lo and behold, aside from the redirect, that's how it's done. Must be because that's how Wikipedia does it, though I bet they have a template. Stick a fork in it.)
I don't think people are going to "get" the (Gameplay) and (Concept) article names, since it could be argued that the power set is very much a concept that impacts game play. Recovery and Endurance Recovery should both exist, with one being a redirect to the other, but I can't think of a reason to prefer one over the other for the actual article.
I don't think that Health Regeneration should be on the same page as (Endurance) Recovery, unless Regeneration, Recovery, and other things are on a page about Character Stats and their interactions; such a page would be a stretch, because while they have similar mechanics, they do not directly interact. Lastly, nobody's going to search for the term "regeneration"; they're going to look for "Health", "HP", and/or "regeneration", so we need something at those points to catch them. --Lin Chiao Feng 22:03, 21 June 2007 (EDT).
I added that {{otheruses4}} to the top. Sounds like Health Regeneration is best. It's late, I'll see if I can find some time during work to work on this. --Konoko 02:17, 22 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks guys, nice work. I was a little floored by the fact it (and Endurance) weren't actually in the wiki. This is an elegant and helpful solution. Kalon 23:19, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

Possible article name/locations for Health Regeneration

About that Confusing Recovery Page

I'm finding the page Recovery bloody confusing, perhaps needlessly so. It seems unclear.

Specifically:

"Many players confuse Recovery with Health Regeneration, which refers either to the speed players regain their Health or to the powerset for Scrappers and Stalkers."

Okay, there is no powerset called Health Regeneration as far as I am aware.

Would it be better to state (what I think the intent of) this more directly? For example:

The terms Recovery and Regeneration should not be confused:
  • Recovery refers to the rate and which Endurance is recovered.
  • Regeneration refers to the rate at which Health (hit points) are recovered, or to the secondary powerset available for Scrappers and Stalkers

Taosin 13:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

It probably should read "Many players confuse Recovery with Regeneration..." That being said, we should probably continue the discussion over there.  :) --Eabrace 14:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes it should be discussed over there, but the top of the page says to talk about it over here! ;p Taosin 05:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

The top of the page is about removing the stub, not about confusing text. Smilies smile.gif -- Agge (talk) 05:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)