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::Isn't it Sparkle Motion damage? ;) - [[User:Snorii|Snorii]] 16:32, 26 October 2007 (EDT) | ::Isn't it Sparkle Motion damage? ;) - [[User:Snorii|Snorii]] 16:32, 26 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
== Quantum Damage == | |||
Quantum damage wasn't entirely replaced by Negative damage. Quantum x does a base amount of Negative damage to everyone and then it does more damage labeled Nicti to a Warshade or Peacebringer. I can't verify this, not having a level 50 hero but it's what I've read. Could someone verify? →[[User:Torin23|Torin23]] 17:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:AFAIK, it was entirely replaced by Negative. It might be labeled differently in the combat spam, but since it is resisted by Negative Res, it would have to be Negative and not a special type. [[User:Weatherby Goode|Weatherby Goode]] 17:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
::But that's what is special about it. The first part of the damage is Negative; this affects everyone. There is additional damage that only affects Kheldians that is unresistable; this is labeled Nicti damage. This is why when a WS/PB teams up, they have their teammates take out the Quantum whatever. →[[User:Torin23|Torin23]] 10:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::The additional damage done to Kheldians is no longer unresistable and is now typed Negative Energy damage. It was changed in the [http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Patch_Notes/2008-02-12 Feb 12, 2008 Patch Notes], and you can see that it only does Negative Energy damage on City of Data [http://coh.redtomax.com/data/powers/power.php?id=Nictus.Hunter.Quantum_Array_gun here]. Now, it still does ''a lot'' of damage, but it's not unresistable.[[User:Trickshooter|Trickshooter]] 15:02, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Base damage for squid/dwarf form == | |||
Michiyo and I have looked into this. | |||
The inobvious bit is that Nova Glinting Eye isn't the same power as Glinting Eye, and that the right-click Info doesn't really respect this. (Most obviously, you can get it to tell you the Recharge Time is 5 seconds even in human form). Nova Glinting Eye's damage scale is 1.16, where Glinting Eye's is 1. | |||
Nova Glinting Eye does just over 2.5x the damage to a like minion. (1.16 * 1.2 * 1.45) / 0.8 is 2.523; ie, including the squidform's 45% damage buff, the damage it actually does is what you would expect if squidform had a ranged base damage of 1.2. | |||
Hence I have restored this information. [[User:Thunderforce|Thunderforce]] ([[User talk:Thunderforce|talk]]) 18:58, 22 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 18:58, 22 October 2020
I think the DE Crystal Titan attacks that can be resisted by Ambrosia inspirations have a "Primordial" damage type, but I'm not certain, so I didn't add that to the list. --Eabrace 20:14, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
- Isn't the Titan damage 'Prismatic' ? I Should be doing an Eden run this weekend, so I'll try to remember and check. Catwhoorg 16:21, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
- Isn't it Sparkle Motion damage? ;) - Snorii 16:32, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
Quantum Damage
Quantum damage wasn't entirely replaced by Negative damage. Quantum x does a base amount of Negative damage to everyone and then it does more damage labeled Nicti to a Warshade or Peacebringer. I can't verify this, not having a level 50 hero but it's what I've read. Could someone verify? →Torin23 17:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- AFAIK, it was entirely replaced by Negative. It might be labeled differently in the combat spam, but since it is resisted by Negative Res, it would have to be Negative and not a special type. Weatherby Goode 17:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- But that's what is special about it. The first part of the damage is Negative; this affects everyone. There is additional damage that only affects Kheldians that is unresistable; this is labeled Nicti damage. This is why when a WS/PB teams up, they have their teammates take out the Quantum whatever. →Torin23 10:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- The additional damage done to Kheldians is no longer unresistable and is now typed Negative Energy damage. It was changed in the Feb 12, 2008 Patch Notes, and you can see that it only does Negative Energy damage on City of Data here. Now, it still does a lot of damage, but it's not unresistable.Trickshooter 15:02, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- But that's what is special about it. The first part of the damage is Negative; this affects everyone. There is additional damage that only affects Kheldians that is unresistable; this is labeled Nicti damage. This is why when a WS/PB teams up, they have their teammates take out the Quantum whatever. →Torin23 10:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Base damage for squid/dwarf form
Michiyo and I have looked into this.
The inobvious bit is that Nova Glinting Eye isn't the same power as Glinting Eye, and that the right-click Info doesn't really respect this. (Most obviously, you can get it to tell you the Recharge Time is 5 seconds even in human form). Nova Glinting Eye's damage scale is 1.16, where Glinting Eye's is 1.
Nova Glinting Eye does just over 2.5x the damage to a like minion. (1.16 * 1.2 * 1.45) / 0.8 is 2.523; ie, including the squidform's 45% damage buff, the damage it actually does is what you would expect if squidform had a ranged base damage of 1.2.
Hence I have restored this information. Thunderforce (talk) 18:58, 22 October 2020 (UTC)